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PostSubject: 318 build advice   Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:33 am

318 engine build. OK folks I have kind of decided to use the 318 that is with the car now. She is punched out 60 over with new pistons rings and bearings. New cam bearing have been installed and the heads are torqued on the motor. I will probably pull the heads back off and check things out and maybe sent them out to my race enggine builder to be ported and poloished a bit for a little extra. I have looked on the web and it is hard to find things for these early 318's. I would like to put a mild street cam in her to give her a little lope in the idle. I don't want anything where I have to worry about the piston clearance. Any thoughts on a cam? Nothing crazy. The 2X4 intake is with the car and so are the air cleaners. I will have to find a couple of early carter fours and linkage. First I want to verify the air cleaners are correct before I talk about carbs. I would have to send the cleaners out to be chromed. The other option would be to go with more up to date carbs and oval chromed air cleaners and sell the air cleaners. Looking for advice. She will be home Sunday and even though I do not have a home for her I will be able to put the engine on a engine stand and work on it through the winter in the shop we had the race car in. I can also remove the dash and gauges and work on them in the house during the winter.Thanks for any advice anyone can give. The motor numbers match the car and since it is 3/4's built I hate to waste it. I will worry about building a rumble buggy when I start my black one.

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PostSubject: Re: 318 build advice   Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:38 am

Hey Jim sounds like a man with a plan to me. I like it. Sounds like your car came with some goodies.

My 58 had a pretty hopped up 318 in it when I got it and it was a great running engine and even got a little gas milage, maybe not 20 but better then the 440, was not built for gas milage. Smile

The 318i had some good pistons a cam and it had a 4 barrel on it. When you kick the 4 barrel in you could tell it. Very Happy

Most important is getting the car done where you will be able to drive it and have some fun. Some well deserved fun. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: 318 build advice   Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:50 pm

I redid my Fury's engine last year, I should have some photos of it.

I had Chris Nielson of Nielson cams do a Fury grind in my cam, he can do special orders too.

Egge Machine has hard to get parts, and many parts are still available at your local jobber.

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PostSubject: Re: 318 build advice   Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:41 pm

That is good to know John. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: 318 build advice   Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:33 pm

Jim,

Before I scored my 350 Golden Commando I built what I considered to be an extremely tough and practically streetable 58 318. Now, I went with 10:1 compression .30 over and had the world renound 318 Guru GARY PAVLOVICH regrind my stock poly cam to his "hot street grind". I opted to use two brand new edelbrock performer carbs as Mike Burke's reproduction ovals could be ordered to fit the newer carbs. She was a beast and sadly, I never got to fire it and sold it when I scored the NOS GC 350. I'd recommend speaking to Gary. Tell him I sent you from the CCC! glpavlovich@cox.net

Check out some of his "handywork" Smile

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PostSubject: Re: 318 build advice   Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:25 pm

Very Happy Looks great Wayne Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: 318 build advice   Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:28 pm

Wow guys all great stuff, Jim those 318s have so much Potential,and they just look so cool under the hood , ebay sells the original style piston kits,your local machine shop can find many inexpensive alt part numbers for pistons to save you cash ,the nice thing about those engines is theyre incredibly beefy,they come with forged cranks ,and can be bored as much as 120ths,very high quality castings.Wayne thats a mean looking poly great pics ,I think the only other engine id consider in my 58'would be a GC 350 or maybe even a 361 just because it looks like the 350,for era correctness,"decencey ,you know" :lol:like Wayne was saying Gary Pavlovik can make those things put out big-block power he sells alot of parts for them and hes a very nice and helpful guy.I wound up spending about 1k total on mine 60 over bore,new pistons, new bearings,,resize rods,heads,ect full overhaul,and gaskets,9 to1 bone stocker, they have lots of great machine shops here..My best advice is shop around because the parts for these engines vary greatly,I was able to get the best prices at the machine shop ' E and E Machine'.I had another poly rebuilt 5 yrs ago and it cost more than twice as much, different parts different machine shop.
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PostSubject: Re: 318 build advice   Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:21 am

Mopar muscle did a build up a couple years ago on a 402 C.I. Poly and it made something like 400 HP. 4" Mopar crank, with custom pistons and Eagle "H" Beam rods.
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PostSubject: Re: 318 build advice   Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:47 am

Thanks guys. The engine is already put back together. Bored 60 over new pistons, rings and bearings with all the machine shop work done. Supposed to be anyway. I will pull the heads back off her when I get it home and check everything out. I know my engine builder grinds cams also. Old NASCAR engine builder. I am not looking to get crazy on this car as my black one ( yes I WILL do a black one) will be the HP car as mine was back in 64. I will ask the person I am buying it from for any receipts he mat have for the engine. By this time tomorrow I will be three hours down the road to load her up. Getting anxious.
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PostSubject: Re: 318 build advice   Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:53 am

Have a safe trip and get back and get some pictures for us. We are waiting. Very Happy

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