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PostSubject: Transmission output shaft seal   Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:40 pm

I removed the driveshaft and e-brake drum from my 57 Belvedere last fall and had the car's rear end up in the air for a few months. Before I went on vacation in January (for nearly 1 month), I decided to put her back down while I was away. Now some of you may remember that the reason I removed the e-brake drum is that I thought it was warped. Now I'm thinking different because while I was gone A LOT of transmission fluid came out the end of the transmission....all over my garage floor. What a mess! It never leaked like that before...not until I set the car back down on the ground? Did the seal get a chance to dry out some more without the fluid behind it (while the rear end was up in the air)?
Anyways, I may have more insight here now...why the e-brake chattered like crazy when I applied it. Perhaps the trans. fluid was seeping out of the output shaft and getting onto the e-brake shoes.

There's the background...now...here's the question...Has anybpdy ever changed a torqueflight transmission output seal? Is it a difficult job? I actually dread doing it...with my bad back/neck and all. Any insight will be helpful.

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PostSubject: Re: Transmission output shaft seal   Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:23 pm

Bob,
Replacing the seal with the park brake drum removed is a snap! The hard work is already done.
Simply remove the old seal with a seal puller or carefully with a screwdriver, clean the mounting surface, and install the new seal usind a seal driver or large socket to carefully tap it into place. I use a small amount of gasket goo on the outer sealing surface, just in case there are deficiencies in the tailshaft housing surface.

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PostSubject: Re: Transmission output shaft seal   Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:48 pm

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Bob,
Replacing the seal with the park brake drum removed is a snap! The hard work is already done.
Simply remove the old seal with a seal puller or carefully with a screwdriver, clean the mounting surface, and install the new seal usind a seal driver or large socket to carefully tap it into place. I use a small amount of gasket goo on the outer sealing surface, just in case there are deficiencies in the tailshaft housing surface.

---John

NO kidding John...so the e-brake shoes or the backing plate/cable assy doesn't have to come off? That's great news...Thank you John.

Once again...you are such a big help...
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PostSubject: Re: Transmission output shaft seal   Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:33 pm

Picked up a new rear transmission seal today at NAPA...and new e-brake shoes at Rochester Clutch and brake. If you guys need shoes or clutch parts for your 57-58 Plymouths or related FL cars you got to call Sam at Rochester Clutch and Brake. He's the greatest and he'll treat you right. Don't go to the specialty houses for these type parts go here first:

http://www.rochesterclutch.com/vintage.shtml

Anyways, I learned why all my transmission fluid ran out when I lowered the car back down in the rear. The e-brake drum has a splined collar in the center and the outer diameter of that collar is the sealing surface for the rear transmission seal. Without the drum there's no seal. Now you and I know the rest of the story.

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PostSubject: Re: Transmission output shaft seal   Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:49 am

Hee! Hee! I see what you mean Ny, You had the seal but nothing to stop it from poring out of the back. Now on Eva's 65 Belv if I let it set for a while Like days well they will be a big puddle of tranny fluid underneith, Iy is the shift cable. It isw a colum shift but in 1965 they had the same tranny as the 63-54 except they had a slip in rear yoke. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Transmission output shaft seal   Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:35 pm

Learn something new everyday right Idaho? Cheers

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