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PostSubject: Questions about getting a classic car   Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:03 pm



OK, we can't ALL have Christines. Good thing I love many '58-'60 cars and a few before and after that. Found one at last weekend's car show in Medford, NJ, a mint-green and white '58 Edsel Ranger sedan, driveable. (By the way, she's got the gearshift on the tree, not typical Edsel push-button on the steering wheel. Automatic, not three on the tree.) I have seen this car driven on the road. I assumed the owner would want an arm and a leg for her, as this is a rare piece of history. Nope. Nine and a half grand. Needless to say, we're in contact.

I'm not an amateur mechanic but there are a few good local places that know how to take care of these cars.

Suppose when I make my trip to see this guy, I write him a check. OK. I call my insurance and add the Edsel to the policy (I can swing that). Do I just drive home and then see about getting Pennsylvania tags? And if so, which ones? Antique tags seems like a good deal but somebody told me they're hard to get now. The car's wipers work but she has no wiper-fluid "guts." What about inspections in PA? (Required yearly for regular tags.) Emissions inspection? Edsels were infamous for mechanical problems. How hard is it to fix one now? Of course what I want to hear is go ahead and take her home, then get the tags in PA, and don't worry about inspections; she's exempt from stuff because of her age and PA doesn't care about the wiper fluid. I read that classic-car insurance might be a bargain vs. adding this car to my regular policy. But of course I want the facts. Thanks in advance.

No garage yet but I can get a tarp of course and can always find a garage in town to rent.

The beauty of this for me is I don't have to drive to work anymore; I'm a train commuter. So I'd drive her locally once or twice a week with a longish trip once a week on the weekend. So a mileage limit with antique/historic PA plates might not be a problem. I don't know yet if the owner wants to transfer his NJ historic tags to his next old car.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:00 pm

Well Serge, the best advice I can give you is hope for the best but plan for the worst. Classic cars need constant attention and maintenance regardless of make and model. Comes with the territory.

As for insurance I'd recommend Hagerty for a classic car. A separate policy specifically designed for classic cars is the way to go. As for transport weigh your options. Now is not the time to drive a long distance with the cold and potential for bad weather. I don't know if PA salts the roads or not so keep that in mind. One dose of road salt will wreak havoc on the car for years to come.

If your sure you want it then pay the man by mail and have him send you the title or reg. Insure it, register it and bring your new plates with you. Mount em up and Roll brutha! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:26 pm

Thanks. He's right across the Ben Franklin Bridge from me. No long distance in bad weather.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:19 pm

Wow Serge that looks like a gem of a car! Smile You seriously thinking on pulling the trigger on this one?


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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:24 am

Pretty Edsel. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:29 am

Edsels are very cool cars! Like them very much. Hope the car is good and you make a good deal!
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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:16 am

Thanks, everybody. Yes, I'm serious. Good idea about making two trips, one to pay and get the title, then coming back with my tags to bring the car home.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:28 am

Inspect the Edsel before buying too.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:15 pm

Very nice, Serge. Congratulations. The 58's were the best for the Edsel. Happy for you. Expect some pics of you bringing her home!

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:14 pm

I didn't know the '58 was the best. I thought the '59 might have been, since the '58's mechanical problems worsened its commercial failure. Thanks!

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:10 pm

Beautiful Edsel. They were definitely cars I was looking for before I got the Mustang.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:13 pm

The 58s were iconic. I can't speak for the mechanical aspects of that year but when someone thinks Edsel, it's the 58s which come to mind.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:17 pm

I see. '59s were beautiful, more streamlined, but nobody remembers them. '60 Edsels were uglified.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:37 pm

I almost bought an Edsel around the same time I bought my Christine. Guy who had the junk yard had about five of them. One was a convertible. I could have had that car and two parts cars for probably $2000 back then. Not sure what I was thinking

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:53 pm

That is cheap!!

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:13 pm

This 1958 Edsel Villager Wagon I was looking at on CL for $3500. Too much for me of course but great price to me and an Imperial beside it and they had a 1953 Mercury Wagon too.

http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/5312341701.html

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:40 pm

For some strange reason, Edsels are still very reasonably priced especially for 55+ year old classics that were in production for only 3 years.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:51 pm

The seller says she's exempt from inspections in PA but I don't know yet if that's for regular tags or antique. I may have found a garage in my town for her.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:00 pm

Serge, One would think it would be exempt from inspections all the way around. But im guessing that varies per state. Here in MN there is no inspections of any kind. And I hope it stays that way. Also here in MN even with collector plates we drive are cars as often as we like and never have any problems. Im not sure what restrictions you have there using collector plates.

I must say I love the 58 Edsels. Its been said they just came out at the wrong time.

Good luck Serge. Smile


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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:44 am

Serge wrote:
The seller says she's exempt from inspections in PA but I don't know yet if that's for regular tags or antique. I may have found a garage in my town for her.

Here in NYS...we have a DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles). We also have yearly inspections on all cars...no matter what type of license plates. I do believe you have a much different set up there in PA. And I do believe it's much more simple and user friendly too. Just give them a call and get the details. I'm sure it won't be a show stopper for you...

Best wishes...I like that Edsel too!

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:05 pm

Nice looking Edsel! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:01 pm

I'm seeing the car and the owner, and checking out the garage in my town, the day after tomorrow.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:05 pm

You look good behind the wheel Serge...Looks like you had good weather today. Have you made the decision to buy the ol' Edsel then?

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:10 pm

In the picture I'm driving her home. She's getting antique-car Pennsylvania plates.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:54 pm

Congratulations Serge!! I'm happy for you. Can't wait to see her in a full documentary of photos.

Excellent news...want to hear all the details of your trip home too.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:00 pm

Driving without power steering or power brakes is a good workout. Great news: I asked my building's (house that's apartments) caretaker if one of the garages behind it was available and he said we can clean one out in a month. Think Miss Edsel will be OK outside in December if Greater Philadelphia's weather's cooperative? Now she's parked in the back yard in front of our garages. Maybe I should get a tarp. The garage I was looking at in town is in a long, obstacle-filled alley and I still don't know if the car fits in that garage, but if it saves her, I'll rent it for a month.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:35 pm

I don't like tarps Serge. They trap moisture and if left on long enough, will actually start pitting your paint, chrome bumpers and die-cast pieces. If only for a month I'd just leave her be. Rain and snow won't hurt the car unless there's water leaks. Unfortunately old cars are known for leaks so, keep an eye on it. Keep feeling your carpets...check your trunk. Water leaking inside a car will ruin an interior quickly. The other problem with tarps is that the wind will whip them, and wear the paint off. Eventually the tarp will tear and leave you with water infiltration anyways.

Some car covers are specifically made for outdoor use. They will "breath" and keep water out at the same time. These usually have ties at the bottom and you can actually wrap the car up tightly right around the underside. That's probably the best way to go...then once you get the car inside you can use it as a dust cover.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:59 pm

Thanks, Bob.

"Thou shalt not steal" ... "thou shalt not bear false witness"... registering her in Pennsylvania I told the truth about her price.

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PostSubject: Re: Questions about getting a classic car   Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:00 pm

Wow, that's cool that you bought the Edsel then Serge! Very Happy 
A lot of old cars don't have power steering or brakes.
I learned to drive on a car without power steering or brakes so I'm used to it now. All of my dad's cars don't have power steering or brakes.
When I did drive a car that did have power steering and brakes in Driver's Education, it felt like a luxury. I didn't know what to make of it at 1st because in all the cars I had driven, none of them had power steering or brakes.
It was a funny adventure at 1st driving the driver's ed car with the power steering/brakes because I automatically thought that it was manual steering and brakes like all the rest I had driven. So you can guess how that went- turning too sharply, and pressing on the brakes too hard and screeching to a stop. To make matters worse, the power steering and brakes were very sensitive on that car.  Laughing
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