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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:20 am

The 392 and all the stuff that goes with it will be up for sale after I get my knee replaced (end of January).  I have a lot of parts including a new 727 with OD and converter and adapter plate.
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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:51 pm

hey Bob do you know where I can get any carburetors for a duel 4 intake
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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:22 pm

I have a complete 413, new bottom end taking up space if anyone is interested
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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:47 pm

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hey Bob do you know where I can get any carburetors for a duel 4 intake

I'm sorry...I do not Don. PM Bloodhound58, BigM and Christine Show Car. I'm sure they can lead you in the right direction if they can't personally help you.

Also, go over here and post a WTB ad:

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:28 pm

Don,
What kind/type of carburetors are you after? As I do not have any carbs for sale, I may be able to help you out with where to find carbs for sale...
I order all or most of my car's parts from Summit Racing Equipment. Summit has a very good selection of car engine parts, mostly performance parts. As well, Summit has a good selection of carbs. Might be worth it to take a look...
They have an online store too, here's the link...

http://www.summitracing.com/?gclid=CjwKEAiAk7O0BRD9_Ka2w_PhwSkSJAAmKswxh-wUQqhi2ECE0d9w1HKOLrWgS9IjXwjw-FC0FGSayRoCqsPw_wcB
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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:24 pm

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What kind/type of carburetors are you after? As I do not have any carbs for sale, I may be able to help you out with where to find carbs for sale.

http://www.christinecarclubforum.com/t4504-looking-for-2652s-2653s-carbs#46081

Based on the other thread he just started, (above) I do believe Don is looking for original 1958 Carter Carbs, 2652S and 2653S.

Oh wow...look at these Don...u need deep pockets though. I guess I've heard they're expensive.  Shocked

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-1957-mopar-dual-quad-350-361-383-carter-2652s-2653s-Fury-D-500-/111401163226

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:30 pm

Alright, thanks for letting me know of that Bob.

What Summit has is aftermarket performance carbs, like Holley, Edelbrock, etc.
But at least they are cheaper than $2k, like those ones on E-bay...
But those at least are the correct '58 carbs...

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:40 pm

Lol yes I'm looking for the 58 carbs.and I know they are expensive.keep ur eyes open and thank u guys for helping.
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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:22 am

58don wrote:
Lol yes I'm looking for the 58 carbs.and I know they are expensive.keep ur eyes open and thank u guys for helping.

Sure thing Don! Going back to original huh? R U one of those purists? lol! I happen to be right with ya!.. cheers

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:55 pm

Does this mean Don already has a motor? Hummm Don come clean..tell us what you bought! Very Happy  


Bob that 361 by me would make a nice motor for the plymmie.  But Chris thinks I should buy that 413 motor and tranny combo. Its a 62 year with the drum on the tranny. But idk how well the 413 sits with me. I sure would rather have a 361 or 383 if there was a choice. But really it all comes down to what I find with that 62 tranny... All these decisions... kinda makes me dizzy..LOL.  Razz


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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:15 pm

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Does this mean Don already has a motor? Hummm Don come clean..tell us what you bought! Very Happy  


Bob that 361 by me would make a nice motor for the plymmie.  But Chris thinks I should buy that 413 motor and tranny combo. Its a 62 year with the drum on the tranny. But idk how well the 413 sits with me. I sure would rather have a 361 or 383 if there was a choice. But really it all comes down to what I find with that 62 tranny... All these decisions... kinda makes me dizzy..LOL.  Razz


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I didn't even pick up on that Brian...So you think Don's found a 350 already?...since he's looking for carbs now. Hmmm. Good observation! Let's see if he''ll come clean?

So the 413 you're talking about is the one you posted a photo of? So...that one's obviously been removed. I take it you'll be reling on the seller to tell you that it ran fine and shifted fine? But perhaps you intend on rebuilding it anyways...This is the problem I'll have because I do not want to rebuild. I don't have the technology and I don't want the added (huge) expense.

I'm afraid I'm going to be a doubting Thomas in this situation. That's why I want to find a running, moving, shifting car. I want to be able to take a drive in it...turn the key to the off position, remove engine, clean it up/paint it and transplant it in to Green Christine and then fire her up again. (w/out the fire of course Wink ) Does that 361 in the Sport Fury run, move, shift? I think that would make a really nice power plant for you...as long as it does all those things. Paint it gold and put two 4's on it and youll have your Golden Commando!

Oh yes, one other thing...I want to see the motor I buy "not smoke" too!  Wink and not leak oil all over the garage floor! Looks like I'll be looking for a while. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:20 pm

Yes Bob that would be the one I posted the photo of. Its a 1962 413 with the transmission we both want. Which is the key thing.  I also rather have the motor in a car so one could here it run and see how the transmission shifts through all gears along with reverse.  But I could also take this motor and mount it on a pallet and start it that way. I would hook up a radiator and other things so one could run it for awhile to make sure it was good to go. The key is to make sure its got good oil pressure after it has warmed up a bit. And of course to make sure its not an oil burner or doesn't over heat. Just look for strange things while its running. If it past all those tests then I would wash it off and replace basic gaskets and seals. Once all that was accomplished I would clean the motor off again and paint it up all nice and pretty. Smile  The same would go with the transmission.. Replace seals and pan gasket. The only thing is checking the transmission is limited because there would be no way to put a load on the transmission being out of the car on a pallet. But I wouldn't mind having this transmission bolted to that 361! That would make a good combo! Wink I am going to talk to the guy and ask him a few questions. Just to get an idea and feel it out. This 413 did come out of a Imperial.


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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:42 pm

Good explanation of what you'd do Brian. That makes good sense...unfortunately, I'm all tired out just thinking about doing all that. I barely could get out of my chair last night...after spending the afternoon taking all the outdoor Christmas lights down. Crying or Very sad It's good you're young and able. Do it while you can!  

I found a 58 small block and tranny today not too far from home...but it's already been removed from the car and been in storage for many years..."ran good when it was put away though"...says the seller, "tranny shifted good too." And this is what the former owner said to him! Does one take a chance?...I don't need no overgrown boat anchors! Don't even have a boat anymore!  Laughing  

Most guys would buy and rebuild right in the garage...but I'm afraid those days are gone for me. Don't really know anyone that could do it (reasonably) for me either. Are those days gone too? If I did, that would be a fun project. I think I'll wait for the running, driving, non smoke-blowing rust bucket to pop up...near home. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:52 pm

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Yes Bob that would be the one I posted the photo of. Its a 1962 413 with the transmission we both want. Which is the key thing.  I also rather have the motor in a car so one could here it run and see how the transmission shifts through all gears along with reverse.  But I could also take this motor and mount it on a pallet and start it that way. I would hook up a radiator and other things so one could run it for awhile to make sure it was good to go. The key is to make sure its got good oil pressure after it has warmed up a bit. And of course to make sure its not an oil burner or doesn't over heat. Just look for strange things while its running. If it past all those tests then I would wash it off and replace basic gaskets and seals. Once all that was accomplished I would clean the motor off again and paint it up all nice and pretty. Smile  The same would go with the transmission.. Replace seals and pan gasket. The only thing is checking the transmission is limited because there would be no way to put a load on the transmission being out of the car on a pallet. But I wouldn't mind having this transmission bolted to that 361! That would make a good combo! Wink I am going to talk to the guy and ask him a few questions. Just to get an idea and feel it out. This 413 did come out of a Imperial.


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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:55 pm

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:46 pm

Question: As he was looking in my 58's engine bay, an old local Mopar fan who is also a well-versed old-time mechanic, told me I'd have fitment issues if I attempted to put a big block in my car (on the driver side). Namely, exhaust manifold to steering column/box.

Side note: I think I have 57 steering column/box in my car...so first hand experience may be more relevant with 57 Plymouths. Not sure on this one though.

Are the big blocks (350, 361, 383, 413) that much wider than a 318 Poly?..also known as the "wide block."

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:57 pm

I think the guy is blowing smoke. How can there be fitment issues when these cars came with big blocks from the factory? The 350-440 are big blocks but I want to say the poly is even wider because of it's heads. Plymouths and Dodges are basically the same cars with different skin, and Dodge ran hemi engines in their cars so, If you can stick a hemi in there, you can put anything in there. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:53 pm

I agree. The engines are 1-1/2'' or so are more over towards the passenger side. Hemis, 413's, Polys all fit, no worries. Just get the right oilpan! Marc.

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:04 pm

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I agree.  The engines are 1-1/2''  or so are more over towards the passenger side.  Hemis, 413's, Polys all fit, no worries. Just get the right oilpan!  Marc.

Would this be the same for a 57 Plymouth Marc because there were no BB's available in 57. The biiggist was the 318 Poly w/dual quads...in the Fury, correct? For some reason this old time mechanic friend of mine pointed right to the size of the steering column/box and said I'd have to change it if I wanted a BB in there. Not 100% sure what year/make this steering column is from but it must be much larger around than the factory 58 column/box. I'll have to get a good photo of it and post it here to see what you think. A lot of doubts arise...when dealing with a Frankenstein car.

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:26 am

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I agree.  The engines are 1-1/2''  or so are more over towards the passenger side.  Hemis, 413's, Polys all fit, no worries. Just get the right oilpan!  Marc.

Would this be the same for a 57 Plymouth Marc because there were no BB's available in 57. The biiggist was the 318 Poly w/dual quads...in the Fury, correct?  For some reason this old time mechanic friend of mine pointed right to the size of the steering column/box and said I'd have to change it if I wanted a BB in there. Not 100% sure what year/make this steering column is from but it must be much larger around than the factory 58 column/box. I'll have to get a good photo of it and post it here to see what you think. A lot of doubts arise...when dealing with a Frankenstein car.

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I'm certainly curious to see what your power steering. box looks like. If it is mismatched, that could be the cause of the troubles you were having earlier.

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:40 am

I had a 392 hemi in mine and didn't have to change the manual box. I currently have a 57 440 with p/s and have no interference issues. The only problem was creating an exhaust pipe. There was not room for errors. Manifolds were no problem.
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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:28 pm

Hello Guys I have a 1958 Desoto 361 block Im willing to sell, has a Dec,10 1957 date stamp block casting 1737629 if any interest get back .
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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:25 pm

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Hello Guys I have a 1958 Desoto 361 block Im willing to sell, has a Dec,10 1957 date stamp block casting 1737629 if any interest get back .

Hi Carlos, I'm actually looking for a running, driving, shifting 4 door donor car right now. Perhaps that may not work out and I'll have to buy each piece so this is good to know...just in case.

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:25 pm



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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:54 pm

Got a picture of the engine number stamping? Where are you located? Smile

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PostSubject: Re: 350 commando engine.   Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:06 pm

Hi wayne, it's me wayne I'm in California know found its engine in a old man's garage. He was a shop teacher for 30 years and just died a year ago. His kids where selling all his cars and parts and came across this engine.
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