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New windshield rubbers?

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1New windshield rubbers? Empty New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:47 am

MoparJoe

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Hey guys, anyone here know if these new windshield rubbers are the real deal?
http://www.oldmoparts.com/parts-weatherstripping-plymouth-1951-1959.aspx

2New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:00 am

58plym

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Joe I have done buisiness with Andy Birnbaun several years ago. He is a good buisinessman and has lots of stuff. He is a square dealer. I would recomend him.

But as far as I know all the window rubbers are cut off from a roll to length. Then you have to butt them together and glue them. You can't get a new rubber now that is not split. Better to find a nice old pliable used rubber if you can. I would check with Big M ,John Fowlie and see if he has any good used one. You probly already know this but just in case. Smile


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3New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:43 pm

25tj25

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Mopar Joe,

I bought these from Andy's and I couldn't see how it was going to work. so I bought original second hand ones which were a lot more $$ but fit perfect
if you want this style from Andy's you can have mine , front and back for $ 100 plus postage - They are cut off the roll and they have to be joined.
you could probably make it work, I just didn't have the time in the end to stuff around

knighty

4New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:20 pm

58plym

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Both Sedans and Hdtps are the same rubber. Now I don't know if a 4dr will work or not. I have a sedan seal in my Hdtp , If I can remember right it was even a 57 :Idaho Bob:


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5New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:32 pm

25tj25

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58plym wrote:Both Sedans and Hdtps are the same rubber. Now I don't know if a 4dr will work or not. I have a sedan seal in my Hdtp , If I can remember right it was even a 57 :Idaho Bob:

Hey Bob, sorry to be off topic here for a second, I sent you a message, totally unrelated, sorry moparjoe

6New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:35 pm

58plym

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No problem Joe , I will pm yu right now. I got on the forum and read it but had to run pick my daughter up and spaced it out sorry. Smile


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7New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:30 pm

MoparJoe

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hey guys no problem all is good i just stumbled across that website and thought it might be of good info to people, Tim i too would like to get second hand ones when i get to that stage of the build, if i cant find any and you still have those other ones ill let you know, ill see how it goes!

8New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:35 pm

25tj25

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MoparJoe wrote:hey guys no problem all is good i just stumbled across that website and thought it might be of good info to people, Tim i too would like to get second hand ones when i get to that stage of the build, if i cant find any and you still have those other ones ill let you know, ill see how it goes!

no probs mate. Once the car is all finished I will probably go thru all the stuff I don't need and sell it off.
the rubbers are nice I just couldn't get my head around it. I guess that is the only option if you don't find good s/hand ones. that would be the way to go

my old ones I left in transmission oil to soften up. but didn't realise leaving them in there for 12mnths, they swell up beyond use.
maybe should have been only 2 weeks Shocked

knighty

9New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:02 pm

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Hey Tim, I did the same thing with my rear screen rubber I bought from John. I left mine in trans oil for three weeks and it swelled. After I cleaned off the excess oil I put the rubber on the shed roof to dry it outhoping it would shrink back. It didn't. So I put the corners in the apeture and cut the excess and glued it all together and the rubber was still soft and pliable. Hasn't ever leaked water and the glass fit real good.

10New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:05 pm

25tj25

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SA Jase57 wrote:Hey Tim, I did the same thing with my rear screen rubber I bought from John. I left mine in trans oil for three weeks and it swelled. After I cleaned off the excess oil I put the rubber on the shed roof to dry it outhoping it would shrink back. It didn't. So I put the corners in the apeture and cut the excess and glued it all together and the rubber was still soft and pliable. Hasn't ever leaked water and the glass fit real good.

Ah nice one, didn't think of that, the corners are the bits you need
could probably do the same with old rubbers that the rest is no good but the corners you could use
Good idea

11New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:07 pm

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Your on the money boss! cheers

12New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:30 pm

cdasho

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my front and read windshield leak..I got my used rubbers from Jeff Nicols. Does anyone else have probs with leaky windows ?

13New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:32 pm

25tj25

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cdasho wrote:my front and read windshield leak..I got my used rubbers from Jeff Nicols. Does anyone else have probs with leaky windows ?

I got my used ones from Jeff too! but hey are sealed up really nice. Got the windscreen guys to use the black mastic stuff
on the body and the glass, was really messy but cleans up easy.

knighty

14New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:50 am

MoparJoe

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25tj25 wrote:
58plym wrote:Both Sedans and Hdtps are the same rubber. Now I don't know if a 4dr will work or not. I have a sedan seal in my Hdtp , If I can remember right it was even a 57 :Idaho Bob:

Hey Bob, sorry to be off topic here for a second, I sent you a message, totally unrelated, sorry moparjoe
i forgive you mate lol

15New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:52 am

MoparJoe

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gee what would the chances be of someone having good second hand ones especially by the time i will need them lol

16New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:13 am

cdasho

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better get them now !!!

17New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:35 am

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Hey Joe talk to John Big M, I think he has them stored away as he keeps the ones that look good.


Our Plymouth need lots of that caulking mastic under the chrome mould. The book tells you to fill up the grove before appliing the chrome window trims, then it oozes out everywhere and its a bugger to clean up but seals great.

18New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:11 am

25tj25

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MoparJoe wrote:
25tj25 wrote:
58plym wrote:Both Sedans and Hdtps are the same rubber. Now I don't know if a 4dr will work or not. I have a sedan seal in my Hdtp , If I can remember right it was even a 57 :Idaho Bob:

Hey Bob, sorry to be off topic here for a second, I sent you a message, totally unrelated, sorry moparjoe
i forgive you mate lol

thanks bud

19New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:12 am

25tj25

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SA Jase57 wrote:Hey Joe talk to John Big M, I think he has them stored away as he keeps the ones that look good.


Our Plymouth need lots of that caulking mastic under the chrome mould. The book tells you to fill up the grove before appliing the chrome window trims, then it oozes out everywhere and its a bugger to clean up but seals great.

excately how we did ours! seals up real good

20New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:53 am

Carjunky

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25tj25 wrote:
SA Jase57 wrote:Hey Tim, I did the same thing with my rear screen rubber I bought from John. I left mine in trans oil for three weeks and it swelled. After I cleaned off the excess oil I put the rubber on the shed roof to dry it outhoping it would shrink back. It didn't. So I put the corners in the apeture and cut the excess and glued it all together and the rubber was still soft and pliable. Hasn't ever leaked water and the glass fit real good.

Ah nice one, didn't think of that, the corners are the bits you need
could probably do the same with old rubbers that the rest is no good but the corners you could use
Good idea



Save the corners?? Thank you? Good to know. Very Happy


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21New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:55 pm

25tj25

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Carjunky wrote:
25tj25 wrote:
SA Jase57 wrote:Hey Tim, I did the same thing with my rear screen rubber I bought from John. I left mine in trans oil for three weeks and it swelled. After I cleaned off the excess oil I put the rubber on the shed roof to dry it outhoping it would shrink back. It didn't. So I put the corners in the apeture and cut the excess and glued it all together and the rubber was still soft and pliable. Hasn't ever leaked water and the glass fit real good.

Ah nice one, didn't think of that, the corners are the bits you need
could probably do the same with old rubbers that the rest is no good but the corners you could use
Good idea



Save the corners?? Thank you? Good to know. Very Happy

yep after seeing the rubber that comes from Andy B's you will need the corners thats for sure : Shocked

22New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:17 pm

furvedere

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cdasho wrote:my front and read windshield leak..I got my used rubbers from Jeff Nicols. Does anyone else have probs with leaky windows ?


Yes Charlie...I've been caught in the rain once or twice and have noticed that water does make it around the rubber seal on my windshield on the driver side. Not a lot though...never had any on the rug that I could feel anyways...Can the modern urethane be used in place of the rubber seals or does the trim installation depend on the rubber seals? It would be good to know just in case I decide to get it properly sealed up some day. For now though, it's not an issue as all my old cars never get driven in the rain. That kills any idea of any long trip with them though.
NY


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23New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:17 pm

25tj25

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furvedere wrote:
cdasho wrote:my front and read windshield leak..I got my used rubbers from Jeff Nicols. Does anyone else have probs with leaky windows ?


Yes Charlie...I've been caught in the rain once or twice and have noticed that water does make it around the rubber seal on my windshield on the driver side. Not a lot though...never had any on the rug that I could feel anyways...Can the modern urethane be used in place of the rubber seals or does the trim installation depend on the rubber seals? It would be good to know just in case I decide to get it properly sealed up some day. For now though, it's not an issue as all my old cars never get driven in the rain. That kills any idea of any long trip with them though.
NY

The front seal could be Urethane I guess as the trim does not fit into the seal at all. just butts up so you would need a lot of it to build it up
The Rear needs the seal. has a lip the stainless fits into. which its the top and sides, the bottom using clips. so your buggered.

tk

24New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:33 pm

furvedere

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I had the feeling that was the case.... No

Thanks for the info...


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And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life, he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
1 John 5:11-12 cheers

25New windshield rubbers? Empty Re: New windshield rubbers? on Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:55 pm

25tj25

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furvedere wrote:I had the feeling that was the case.... No

Thanks for the info...

No Probs Very Happy

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